BCA Goes Down Memory Lane!

Episode thirteen of season 2 for Beyond the Podcast of 1984. This episode: BCA goes down memory lane with noise, grind, noisecore & outsider weirdos! Vaginal discharge, wheelchair full of Old Men, & other fine rocka rollers from yesteryear! 

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Hello. Good afternoon. This is terrible. And I'm here to present to you the endo parasitic host of this show, behind the podcast in 1884. Here he is, the bizarre alien. Well, thank you, Terry. Yeah. Here we are. Another episode. here we are. And I was just thinking about the quote unquote old days. So. So my buddy Robert from, we used to do better, nor and, some other noise slash industrial experimental projects that, I want to, you know, I gotta mention you guys, all you guys, and I'd say gals, but, you know, I was just thinking. Wait, were there any gals that were doing stuff back then? Like. Yeah, there was, from Texas. There was a young lady named Rebecca. I was never pen pals with her, but she, I believe, had a tape or two out on a label. My old friend, River, an ogre snot gurgle from, from Fecal Side. God's favorite band, and some other stuff. Wherever you are, man, it's been a while. But anyhow, her name was Rebecca, and she did this total garbage crap project called I'm Bored. And I could have sworn I think she did a split tape with sonic disorder. And it's been a long time. And I gotta tell you, what's funny is I've not thought of. I'm bored. ID probably like 20 something years, but I was just thinking. Come on, ladies, back then. Yeah. There's her. Actually, there was another band total. I was going to use the word a total shit band. It was, I believe it was Roach from Bong International. Recipes. Not Roach, but his label. They put, he put out a lot of cassettes way back, and then the only vinyl he put out, which I'm still I'm pretty excited, but it was a long time ago. It was like 1993. Put out the discharge. The earwigs split seven inch, which took like I took a while to come out. But anyways, it came out and, if you don't have it, then I guess you don't have it, but you could always get the, cassette if it's still in print from Tribe Tapes. What's up? Dude, I know I still get to send you those, but. And or and, by the time this season's out, I'm sure you already have them. Put them out. Just please make sure that you send them back to me because I need them in my archives. But anyways, buddy Max from Tribe Tapes is going to be putting out some better in order cassettes and probably some other stuff, related stuff. But, more on that later. So what was saying is, guys, I just kind of went all over the place, didn't I? Roach, who was also in Son of Dog, which is a great grind band. And it who he he was going to say girl that he was dating at the time ended up doing this tour or just got a call. What? It was a total shit, man. Just sloppy, made up on the spot, but pretty funny. Called Madchen mit pitch in, which means bitches with whips and the word just wouldn't fly nowadays with who cares? It was a joke, you know? But, you know, nowadays everything's all offensive. I don't know, I get to quit. Who cares? You know what? Anyways, they're there, all right. I think I have a copy of their demo somewhere. It's like something that should get a rerelease because it was pretty bad stuff, but it was really funny. And all the songs were about pretty much if I remember I beating up man dominate man. It was a joke. But, so there was, there's another band there, kind of noise, kind of industrial, pretty underground as far as I'm concerned. I can't even really find anything by them. I think I found one little thing about it, but this band from Australia is these two women, and, I'm probably to get beeped out, so I'll maybe I'll just I'll just spell it out was Q and D, which. Yeah. Oh, there's the dreaded C word which you actually know. The original title is not an offensive word, it's just that the Puritans came along, took it, and blah blah blah blah, blah. Anyways, they're pretty cool. So moving moving moving moving move a move a move a move. Our refrigerator moving right ahead. I was thinking about the old days, you know, but all these, like, crazy noise, homemade bedroom free whatever bands, a lot of more. Just one person doing them, you know? Yeah, like sonic disorder. It better ignore, carnal heat and coitus. Unless you mark man. It's been a while. Just. Mark's still around. Is doing okay, but, it's kind of went a wall, but, Yeah, you know, Mark Burke, he also did the awesome fanzine, you know, barbaric, which was great. He did, also a cassette label and a lot of the stuff that he put out, like, crazy beer muscles, which were great, and of, you know, just a bunch of different stuff. He did a lot of cool compilations, and I was thankful for being a part of some of those. And of course, Robert did, a couple compilations, Beauty of Noise. What was it called? The Beauty of Noise? Cat. Dang it. I'm sorry, I don't have the reference right now. Oh my gosh. Sorry. Yeah. You know, I'm not a very professional person here. I don't. Oh well, anyways, Robert pulled out a couple really cool compilations. My buddy Adam and I were both on them and they're great comps, but, there's a lot of people. Doing bands back and, you know, and they weren't like big bands. They're just usually one person. Now, of course, there's a few exceptions, like pile of Eggs, which was Steve Eggs. And whoever he had around at the time, which was a bunch of us guys, you know, just a bunch of people, not just, you know, the people. You know, if you know me, you know, you know, you know, everybody was in pile of eggs, but also the people like Jamie who did, a project called EOI, who lived down in Ohio, Jim from Schnauzer Minch, from the deaths. Nun slaughter. He was in, pile of eggs off and on. I remember we recorded with them one time, and it was it was just a it was a weird recording because we practiced we made up the songs first and then we actually recorded them. That was a really weird recording. But anyhow, so I think of all these bands, man. What was the name of that label? There was this label from Texas, and I still have some of his cassettes. He did a band called what was the label called? Totally Horrible Band. It was actually pretty funny, though. It was called Kitty litter. And for the life of me, I cannot remember the name of that dude or his label, but, he did not last goes around for a very short time. There's a bunch of people that were like that. They kind of like fly by night, you know, noise, grind bands as people that like or just decided to record something, and then maybe they make a few fliers and, did a couple of tapes and then that was it. They were gone. And here I am, man. Next month, August 2024, 34 years. I mean, yeah, I've quit many times, but not for very long. And, the Eric, I don't know if this is true, but supposedly he quit sonic disorder. Quit doing noises a while back. I hope it's not true. I hope not, because. Eric, you're awesome, man, I miss you. I need to go back. It does a lot of people I need to get back in touch with. Like him and Stan from reality impaired, socialistic Johnny Goblet, Yars revenge. Of course. You know, the legendary vaginal discharge which are one of the funniest bands of all time. Rest in peace. Ryan. Mr. Guy, that band that was back in late, late, late, late 90s. But if you go on, like, way back, there was so many crazy. And I'm not talking about. Well, I'm talking about all, like the kind of like the, the grind noise bands and noise core stuff, you know, it, like, mix it them. Which was pretty cool. I think that was the dude. I could be wrong. I keep saying I was Damon Rivet, man. I can't remember what zone he did. It's been a long, long time. I can't remember it was coroner's report, but I think it was. And that scene, regardless, was really cool. He had all kinds of bands and there like, this crazy bunch of crazy bands was great fanzine, you know, and then of course, like bands like, it was a really crazy, weird band. Morbid. Morbid was great. And I think it's really sad. The guy that did morbid did a bunch of, like, oddball bands. I can't remember if that was the dude that did Monkey Mosh, which was a really weird noise. Core band was pretty cool stuff. I oh, and it was San. Okay, if anybody remember San, according to Mike Duncan, when was very last time that we hung out? He told me that San had passed away. I was like, damn it. And I'm sorry to hear that. I mean, I never wrote the guy, but I heard he was a really cool guy, but he did. He did a whole bunch of different weird projects and stuff. I guess the stuff got even weirder, but more bones. Other copy of the three song demos somewhere was really cool stuff. And then he had Ungar, Sangre, Souto, Rango, which was this huge. I remember they were like from Poland, but it was like a bunch of dudes and like this one, young lady and I, there's a lot of people in that band, and I always wanted to hear them are they're pretty crazy, but there's like, a lot of stuff. But, I mean, I want to go way, way, way back to like 91. There was a contestant lunch, which were absolutely horrible. It's just like, dude, dudes, no amplification whatsoever, no microphones, nothing was just them banging on pots and pans. It was pretty freaking hilarious. I wish I could get a copy of that demo, because my friend Jerry, another guy. Where he at? Man, I did an episode about. Yeah, several episodes ago, and I hope I hope he's still out there, Brother Michel. But, Jerry had a copy that demo because the guys wrote him, and we listened to it as, like, I don't like ten, 15 minutes. And it was pretty horrible. You had, there's so many, like, crazy bands back then. So my point of this, this part of the episodes, I'm just talking about bands from way back and, it was just awesome because people would just record, you know, they have nothing really fancy. I mean, sometimes folks had like four tracks or maybe even something even fancier. And it wasn't all just like, you know, like you grain noise. Steve would argue and say noise grind, which is cool to grind noise, noise grind noise core, whatever you want to call it, man. There's like so many bands back then, I mean, all over the place, you know, there was like the was that, brain hockey. And then of course, you had the horrible, which I liked them too. They're pretty crazy. But vaginal dysfunction dissection, vaginal dissection. Jim Stan. Nice face. Could even spell his own band's name and had, like, some of the worst. Their logo was just horrid. But, you know, they're they're a cool man. They're just loud and just a bunch of tons of people in that band. A bunch of little kids screaming and yelling and banging on stuff was great. And, you know, we had a lot of bands like, you know, in the United States and then like all over. I mean, you've got, I consider them a legend. Kokoda. And I feel like a frickin idiot. So he's done was a band scab. I just can't believe. Yeah, I know my brain's not working, but anyways, K is still around. He's still recording, noise core stuff. He's doing electronic noise stuff. And I felt like such a poser that I have never written that dude. And yet I hear nothing but cool things about him. I say, oh, how hard is it to write a letter to Japan? Because I don't think he's online. I mean, if you look him up, you'll find a stuff, which is cool. I just wish I could remember the name of the band I have, like, oh, Deadly Verity. It has been so long, I just found, like, another one of my Deadly Verity demos. But, Yeah, yeah, Deadly Verity, because his label was called Cat move, and I think he's still doing that label, but it was like all this, like, Japanese stuff. And this is a really super, super cool guy. I can't remember where I got those deadly rarities. I don't remember if he sent them to me or somebody did. But anyways, it's I'm really cool. Weird, like beats and stuff. It's kind of like noise, but just more like, just odd, like, really cool stuff. And then he had, like, was a total noise band. So I building of JL and there was a really beautiful cassette released, Jason from Chaotic Noise Productions put out years ago that I have, I still have that original, that cassette, and it's just some incredible, weird electronic noise stuff. And then just, you know, going back. But all these people are, like, doing their own stuff, man. And it was like international. And there was a lot of tape trading going on. A lot of, you know, people just photocopy their covers. Sometimes you get people that have like really slick, bubbly, like access to a color coffee or, you know, something more fancy. But it was just cool, man. And, I don't know, I was pretty prolific back then. You know, like I said in my last episode did, I was all like, I was a little bombed and stuff, but I'm like, you know, sometimes you just go through those phases of mass creativity. And then, I don't know, like I said, it's been a while. I still kind of do stuff. I do love talking about and I've told people this, I've, right before I started the show, I said, yeah, when I do this show, I'm with, I want to talk about some of the old days, and it's just like my buddy bloody mess does. He talks a lot about shows he's been to. Like he just did an episode. Probably it's not. I don't think it's his most recent episode, but he did one about seeing Waylon Jennings and, buddy Holly a long, long time ago. And it was a really cool story. And that's what I'm kind of like doing here. I'm just talking about, you know, some of my own experiences and people I've known. And, you know, not all the bands back then were like, you know, noise or whatever, but, you know, he had like vaginal discharge, which were a really fun comedy, acoustic duo with, my buddies Stan playing acoustic guitar and then Ryan, singing and then playing a harmonica. Sometimes just a really gifted band. And I honestly think that they should have been bigger than they were. But sadly, you know, Ryan passed away because he had a heart attack, and this is years ago, and I missed the guy a lot. And there's a beautiful page if you type in, vaginal discharge tribute to Ryan. There's a really lovely, take up memorial page, and I need to go back to it because I want to see if if there's, like, more stuff about that guy. But he was fun. He was just a really he was a big, big guy. And a lot of the shows you did end up taking the shirt off, and then he dumped, cottage cheese all over himself. This guy's is just awesome, man. But they're a part of the whole big DIY underground thing. And there's some guy named Mike Adams did did homemade music. I actually got a lot of his tapes and stuff from my buddy Adam, because he got rid of a lot of stuff years ago. Anyway, he had like, what was he called himself? Chuckles. Like chuckles. He did flight attendants. That stuff was really cool. I've got a, double CD for it. Of course. Let's go back, man. Let's go back to some crazy grind crust stuff, like, you know, the mighty morbid vomit and decimation of authority with, Mr. Sean Lambert. I don't I haven't really heard from Sean in a while. Sean's a cool guy, man. I hope, man, I oh, please, please, please, if you ever find that configuration, you could symphony. I'm going to keep. I'm going to keep bugging you about of it. Like I said, I can help to put that out. And if you if you find it anyways, Sean's a legend in underground. He hasn't put out anything in a long time. I hope he gets. I hope, man, he talking about you. Talking about. Oh. Well, let me just say you, buddy, I hope that you put out more stuff again, because all the stuff you put out, it's been really cool. I I'm still surprised you put out, was. It wasn't dismember fetus. It was, God, the other band. Now, I'm. I'm so sorry. I'm having a brain farts right now. I was, like, another crazy band down from, from Colorado. And for the life of me, I'm having a brain fart. Anyways, I got the CD, I like it. Still think a lot of song titles are really stupid, but hey, you know what's freedom of speech? If I consider listen to G.G. Allen and the mentors, I can't sit here and complain about, you know, like I used to. I used to hate dismember fetus and all this, like, illicit dope. It's like, I like them. I like their music. But anyways, so, yeah, tons of bands, like my buddy schizo three. Really cool guy. And, Yeah, like I said, I'm not very professional here. I don't have I don't have reference guide in front of me right now to, you know, a lot of people, they do podcasts like I do all my research, you know, I promise that, like how many episodes ago this is this is episode 12. And, you know, this is the thing is, I'm a sporadic person. Like, I get to do conversation with somebody. I could just keep jumping around on different subject matters. I know that probably annoys some people. Will guess what? Yeah, I'll say yet again, if you don't like it, don't talk to me. Don't like me, don't talk to me. You don't like my show? Don't listen to it. Will I be different? So, yeah, I'll be a little defensive because I love it when I find out. Sometimes people talk smack about me. They don't like me. They think I'm, oh, I'm this or that's like that. If you have a problem, why don't you at least, at least say something? That's fine. If you don't like that. I don't give a shit because I dealt with bullying and all kinds of crap when I was, you know, growing up with that for years. And I don't care at all. It's like, if you don't like me, that's fine. I know some people do like me, and I don't. I don't be to sound like an egotist or. But my whole point is. Yeah, just think of all the old days and all these bands. And so all I've been doing is maybe mainly naming all these bands. There's so many more I could, I could probably do, I could do a whole, kind of like with, was it last podcast on the left? As they've done, they do all their shows about true crime and serial killers and stuff, and they've done some episodes out of, basically gone up to eight hours. Not like were you sitting here for eight hours, but you know what I mean. In parts, like, each of us was like an hour long, but they ended up doing like eight hours worth. I could do that. Talking about about the glorious days. And I are they are glorious. They're what kind of made me kind of helped who I am right now. You know, I'm 53 now, and I started doing noise when I was like 19. And it's just it's a big part of my life. And I've seen a lot of people just they were doing stuff for a while and then they quit. Like we had Jason, them insomnia, and oh go was the label's owl records. I can't, I can't or anyways, really nice guy. But one of the very last times I heard from him, he's like, I've been on mainly listening and playing emo music. So I think that's fine, you know, maybe got burned out on noise, but he did, pretty cool ambient noise, experimental band called insomnia. And I've got some of the releases, I've got some compilations. You point out a really good stuff. Cool guy. I hope. Wherever you are, dude, I hope you're doing good. But I guess, you know, he never could have had family and everything. Kids and all that. I mean, that happens. You know, those people I've known for a while, they're still doing stuff like my dear friend Malo. Malo de Laura. She used to, call herself Malo aid plan. And then she just dropped that. Now she just malo de Laura. But she's been doing noise experimental for quite a while, and I've had the honor of playing, like, 2 or 3 shows with her. And, you know, Malo, you're awesome. And like I always say, always the best to you and your pop up. I hope you're doing good. And, yeah, it's just a lot of different people. I mean, come on, let's go back to, like, Frank Sturgeon. And then you get the legend. He's been around since like, I think the mid 80s or whatever. Ron Lazard from IMO polio. And the funny thing is I he also does excuse me, Hales does RR records, which is a legendary, record label. I actually tried to call RR about a month ago, and it just the phone kept ringing and ringing and ringing. I wanted to leave a message, so I don't know what's going on. I was going to say, man, this is this is Charles bizarre alien from the earwigs. Just want to say hi. I'm her from in a while. I hope this you know Ron gets this message, but no such luck. I even emailed the guy a while back and no response at all. So I'm assuming that RR is around. But anyways, RR R is a legend and I was really surprised. I played two shows with them here in Spokane and it was a real honor. I thought it was going to be a total stuck up snob. And he's not. He's a really nice guy. He's really fun, funny, human being. And I think he made some people uncomfortable. He said, come on, you know, play the show. And back in 2006, with him, can't prurient crank Sturgeon, another legend. And, you always played that gig and there was all these, like, death metal people standing there. Not like standing by themselves was. Come on, I know you think you look all evil and a cool. Come on, join in and everybody get together. And he actually kissed a girl on the cheek. But he tried to do that. And I probably get tased or. But anyways. And he was, like, you know, being crude or anything, but regardless, he had everybody, he had them all laugh and then they kind of like came forward. It's like, I mean, I understand, you know, you go to you're not used to a certain genre of music or sound and you kind of stand back. I've done that. But especially if you're not really a big fan, you know, just kind of standard doesn't mean that you're like a poser to just means I'm not I don't really understand this. And I know there's a lot of people that don't get what I'm doing and not just me, but other people in the in the world of noise freak, experimental or outsider, non-music. And I think it's great. The only thing I kind of pisses me off, though, is I know I remember reading an interview with k k. No. Well, wasn't an interview with K.K.. No, it was, Guy was the guy the guy from trance? Not the label, but the band trance, which are pretty kind of interesting. I don't I heard a little bit one time, he did a magazine, on Gawker. Bach, I can't remember. Anyway, anyways, it was a it was a really cool magazine. The guy and his, I'm assuming, was his girlfriend, but they they they did a magazine together, and it came out at reviews of, like, Japanese films. And then I had a bunch of reviews of noise stuff. And it was all Japanese. It was pretty cool. But he was writing about how he was, down in San Francisco was playing a show. Oh. I'm sorry. Yeah, he did cha cha cha. No house, label, which I wish I had some of that stuff in my collections by all, like, out of print now. But anyways, who's playing a show with K.K. Nolan, I guess, K.K. Nolan. Oh, leaving because I'm not really in the noise yet. The funny thing is, he's done noise stuff himself, so I'm like, I don't really get that. I'm not Reagan on a guy because I like, let me read a little bit, but I don't know if I'm pronouncing the name Zen. He give our Zen he gave up, but they're not bad. I used to actually, I think I had one of two CDs or something I got rid of because I was like. And but I think I would like it a lot better now. But anyways, I've got one of his I've videos I just got, his collaboration CD with Jim Plotkin, which is actually pretty cool. It's like very ambient sound, a very I mean, sounding it's pretty cool, experimental stuff. It's like guitars and, electro, you know, synth guitars and stuff. And it's pretty cool. But, I don't know what was. What was that all about? I don't know, I just thought I was like, okay, you don't really like noise. You're making noise. You do your you do some noise stuff, but then, you know, you want us to go around and check out other people, but that's that's fine. But yeah, going back, you know, to the quote unquote old days, I love it. And it really makes me happy when people get Ahold of me like, dude, I want to hear more stories and stuff. And so I had a lot of crazy stuff that's happened. Some a lot of good stuff and some bad stuff. I mean, I can't tell you how many times I played a show and everything went wrong. It felt worse than Spinal Tap. But, you know, just got to playing a show in a a go out and nobody knew how to reset it. I did a show like that one night, and I think I played for like three minutes. And then it's like, you could hear it. I haven't even put it out. It was a show I played at Object Space and what Rigby kind of ticked off. Now I laugh about it, but the next band was already setting up a mic and you could hear them two toasters. I'm like, excuse me? I mean, I'm like freaking, you know, it's trying to figure out how to get my sound going again. And they didn't figure it out till later that the PA that most of the bands are using it like turned off and they didn't know that you could reset it. But I played many shows like that were something go wrong. And then the last few shows I played, I vowed I wasn't going to get mad. It's like if something goes wrong, I don't care. I'm still going to play, you know? So it's all about him on the other day. I don't care if I don't have any, you know, equipment doesn't work at all. I'm going to run around and kick stuff or just, you know, do something. But I'm not this guy. I'm not going to stand there for like ten minutes yelling because it's pointless. But, it's always good to have a backup. So it's like, what's the point? So I got so mad at one night at one show, my buddy Adam gave me this really cool, keyboard. And I got so mad because I didn't think it was working. I threw it on the ground, and I jumped up and down, and I totally smashed it, which was really stupid. I wish I hadn't done that. I actually use that keyboard for some earlier console conflagration stuff I did. I used the, like, there's a program on or you can use drum pads. So I did a song doing that. I just, I feel really bad. It was a cool keyboard. I should have just frickin, you know, put it to the side and then figured out what's going on with later. But I didn't, and I don't do that at shows anymore. I also, since obviously I don't drink anymore. Back when I used to play shows, I used to drink a lot of beer because I'd be so nervous. And I did that for comedy too. And like, that's just bull, man. It's like, I got to be really buzzed to not be scared. Then what's the point of playing? So that was like a new rule that I had that I don't, well, I can't drink more anymore anyways, so I don't have an excuse. I don't drink coffee anymore either. So if I'm going to get hyped up, it has to be a complete natural high, which I would kind of been doing okay. I've been finding myself getting hyped as funny because I'm not really getting anything. You know, strong in my system. But yeah, this, this particular episode, I pretty much just talk about, you know, what's old bands. And I apologize if I'm forgetting anybody. I mean, you know, shoot, there are so many projects and that's more like with their work, because I had a friend of mine told me, like, you're not you're not a real band. It's like, well, yeah, actually I am, because it's me, myself and I, I don't need to have anybody else in a band. For a long time I did. I was trying to like, find people as though, oh man, I want to be a real boon. I'm like, what makes you not real? What, because I don't have other people. It's just me. Good. And the thing is, when you're doing your own project, give your your personality. Is the band. You know what I mean? It's it reflects your personality. And when you have a bunch of people doesn't really do that. But I don't think there's anything wrong in having four bands. But I still give a big forward fold to people that trash on, you know, I keep hearing a stupid one man geek bedroom band sick. Screw you. Not everybody's cool. Popular like you are a frickin thug. Not everybody can get a band together. And obviously, since I'm. I'm this could overwhelming, overbearing, whatever else. People like a bitch about me sometimes. Yeah, I am, and that's why I do a band by myself. I don't want to do a band with any of you people out there. You know what? I don't want to. I've actually tried to get people, to jam and nobody wants to. It's like, good. Fine. You know what? I'm just going to do it by myself. And I could do it. Shoot, I've. I've been recording by myself for almost 34 years, and I'm not regen on people. I understand. It's like buddy of mine. I thought we were going to jam. He's like, yeah, I'm just real busy during the summer. That's cool. I don't take any offense that maybe a tiny bit. Is that okay? Just like maybe just a tiny bit. I really it's like whatever, you know, sucks. People seem excited about something and then it's like, oh, well, I mean, let's face it, if you could walk, you could talk, you could breathe, you could think for yourself, you could do your own stuff, man. Look at he has all I can't pronounce his name. Hazel. Hazel Adkins legend. He did all his music by himself. And that's kind of like what I'm doing. You know, and I do actually do music off and on. Hoping to do more if I get all this recording crap going again. But, yeah, there's been a lot of good times, man. There's a lot of bands that I remember way back, you know, one shot projects he had t k from, Bulgaria was a notorious rip off band, had us send us $5 foot, our head ringing noise demo, and I know a few people that send them money and they never they never sent their tape. And I have a copy of it somewhere and it's pretty crappy. It's like a AC wannabe, but it's kind of entertaining. I mean, it's better than a lot of crap I can think of pop, modern, pop, R&B, autotuned garbage. I'd rather listen to t k at least it's, you know, funny. And of course you get the legends. The still around seven minutes of nausea, discharge. There's like so many bands past and present and all the stuff that, you know, Bong International put out. Dan charges a label, go charge him. And Frank goes, shit, they put out so much crap. And a lot of it was really funny. And then, of course, don't forget the legendary group recordings. Mike Duncan's old label put out tons. I mean, most of it was his stuff, and it was fun. Hilarious. Great stuff. Fuck Music Productions has put out a lot of like, crap. A lot of just, just trying to think of all these other labels, you know, Eric disorder. Go it, UFC, which, Yeah. Sorry. Me why? Pride. Beep. Some of it's pure. I'll just say pure f and chaos. He used to destroy stuff. And then of course, Mike Jr didn't make it in sacks and glogg and saber tooth aphid. He put out so much stuff. But one label was definitely never, ever forget. And I know the folks who listen to this are probably like, why didn't you mention them in the first place? But the very legendary wheelchair full of old men as run by food forts to not, legendary label so much stuff it's not even funny like some of the worst crap ever, but also some of the most hilarious stuff. I mean, come on sockeye folks. Well, armless and angry, who used to be called brainless nine year old mud flesh and, lettuce vultures. And of course, you can't forget Boy in Love, one of the greatest punk bands ever. That's also Band of Food. He played guitar. I think they're still around there, but, him and his buddy Scott. Really just great punk rock. Hilarious, non-serious. Which is what I like. I don't need all this ultra serious, although I like I like some serious, you know, crass stuff like, that's cool, but yeah. Oh, me. So buddy, homemade labels way back. Man, this crazy. And as much as I'm not, I'm not friends of the guy. I don't talk to him at all. This is say, you know, hospital, hospital records. But I'm a lot of cool stuff. I've got a lot of the earlier hospital recording stuff, and it's pretty cool that there's anti everything of carry. Congratulations, man. On your, on your sober on being sober and all that. That's cool. A lot of people talk about being sober nowadays and that's cool, man. I was never a drunk, but, I don't like to be, sober because I never got drunk. But, my friend Kai, who did take down UAV, and I apologize, I can't remember the name of your newer project, you know, has a definitely a very interesting name, but I is, recorded a ton of stuff for him. His wonderful, super awesome lady V living over in Olympia and, cool, cool folks. And my friend Sean, I haven't heard anything about you recording in a while, but, you know, after birth. And I still wonder if you're ever going to do that vegan steak knife project. But, you know, you bruised. Oh, God, I'm trying to remember the other one. There was bruised. Oh, man, my brain is not working. But so much. Man, I'm just kind of rambling now, but, if you're an old friend of mine or you're somebody that was, like, interested in the old days and old man, I hope you're enjoying this. Hope you've enjoyed this episode. I could just go on and on and on. I mean, so many crazy bands that are long gone, you know, they're like, mostly just like I said, one person doing them like x mortis was, was hilarious and really cool. I wish I had all those records, especially the split with App Store, which is like one of the greatest things I've ever heard in my life, just absolutely like, what the heck am I listening to? And oh my god. Anyway, sorry I keep yawning. I'm just really tired. For good sick my medicine the other day. And then, later that night, I got really, really sick. Like, I went outside and I just literally threw my guts up. I got, to about. I didn't record it. It could have recorded on you could have been a new fart monster song, but I didn't. I just ended up going pretty much straight to sleep and, Yeah. So that's, that's it for this episode. I'll probably do another part. I guess I was just kind of rambling here, so, Lord, I was born a worm in man, so, Yeah, I guess that was about it. Everybody, thanks for listening to this episode. Maybe the next episode will make more sense. Well, this one was straightforward. Anyhow, thanks for listening to be on the podcast in 1984. I have a lot more to talk about next time, a couple more episodes. I don't know how many more episodes I'm going to do. Maybe will beat season one. So anyhow, everybody out there listening to the show, we'll talk to you next time. And, you know, you can leave comments, questions, complaints, I don't care. Good. Bad. Ugly. Thank you for listening to our show. Stay crazy, stay weird, keep the filth and keep watching the skies. This has been bkac. And, we'll see you again, okay? Bye bye. Oh, God. That for a monster? Dang him! Hee hee hee!