A Pre-The Earwigs History of BCA's "Musical" Endeavors

The second episode of season 2 for Beyond the Podcast of 1984. This episode: A pre-The Earwigs history of BCA's "musical" endeavors, Deche-Charge made me a violent online enemy and a buncha random tidbits from your alien pal!

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All the way from planet X. It's your favorite. And oh, parasitic mutant mouse. The misery I and And here we are with another, second episode of of, the alleged season two of Beyond the podcast of 1984. And I have good, show for you. Wow. It's sound like a robot. I don't I maybe I am a robot. I don't know, I'm sure I don't know if that's ever happened. You find out your robot, that's that's that's been done in movies. So anyways, yeah. Trying to get my brain to work. I like to blame the medication. I just took a bunch of pills earlier, which I have to do every single day. All right. Lots of, stuff for my diabetes, as I like to call it. I for anybody. Who thinks, oh, you should be really, too. You know. We laugh, but I can if I want. I'm the one that has it not, you dummy. So, anyhow, I've got a story for you tonight. Just. Right. Cut to the chase. So. And, between September, 1985 and May 1988, I lived in Wuhan, Germany. And while I was there, that was when I first tried to make a band. I would say since probably like 1984, I had fantasies of being in a band. I never really I never tried back then, but in I think it was around probably near the end of 1985, I ended up meeting this friend of mine in high school named Chris Hayes, and Chris was a pretty cool guy, of a short fella, sort of a bull haircut. That's just, kind of a regular, you know, kind of goofy looking guy, much like myself. I was goofy looking. I had kind of a bull haircut, too, and, definitely had the beginnings of a mullet. And, of course, this was so long ago. Although I had a mullet later. I'll talk about that sometime about my other mullet that I had years later. I was pretty bad, but anyhow, so, my friend Chris and I, we ended up becoming friends and I think, I don't know how we met. Might have been just randomly talking about music. I don't know. Anyways. Cool kid. He invited him over to his house one day, and I met his mom, who was Austrian, and his father is American. His father was in the Air Force. And, anyhow, we ended up becoming really good friends and one of our favorite things to do. We were constantly air guitar in his room, and he had, he had a pretty decent cassette collection, you know, and this was what he had, like, God wasn't like he had Sega, Sega, Sputnik. What else did he have? Who do we remember who he air guitar told us I'd bring tapes over to, but, it was like we had air guitar, too. Like Iron Maiden, TNT, Billy Idol, Pet Shop Boys, which is funny because I don't think they ever used a guitar in their music. I don't know, I haven't heard enough Pet Shop Boys, although I like them. I like I like some songs by them. But anyhow, we were always air guitar. And then, one day we were talking about, oh, man, it'd be cool to do a band. And we had these really ridiculous ideas. It was like we were imagining like, this is this is like a few years before I even heard of Gwar. I didn't even I didn't know of their existence at all. And, anyhow, we had this idea, like, man. What if we were. Like, a hard rock band and we cover ourselves in gore? And I was thinking about Queensryche and we ended up, we made up this band, and I not to sound like an egotist here, but I had to credit myself because I'm actually the one that came up with the name. But, we ended up colonists, the so-called band scream rage and it and it was. It's funny because it was spelled r e m rr y ge with an, lot over the y, which makes no sense. Because I was thinking about Motorhead. I just got in a motorhead. There's this British heavy metal compilation tape I had. I can't remember the name of it, but, it wasn't even all really metal either. I mean, I had some metal on a hard rock, like, like Venom and Tank. Hawkwind, Motorhead. I can't remember who the other bands on there were, but anyways, I was inspired, you know, I was at war. They got a, lot. And then, of course, Motley Crue, who I'd been into, for a little while. That's when I first around the first time I get into Motley Crue. But anyways, what's funny is that, Chris had a drum set, but what was kind of Dom? And it used to really kind of annoy me. I didn't really say his name, but it's just like, hey, band, we use your drum set. He's like, we'll go up in the attic. So what he did is he would play this, he had the seat cushion and he did it with pens, and I ended up, I was borrowing this bass guitar from this neighbor, this kid named Bucky. And, what was funny is the bass guitar is totally beat up. I think it only had like two strings on it, and this kid would use it as a baseball bat. And I was trying to I didn't I want I should have bought it from I don't know, it was kind of beat up. But anyways, he let me borrow it. So, I had it for a while, which is kind of weird. I don't remember ever having it in my room. I think I just borrowed it from him sometimes. But yeah, how? I didn't have an amplifier and I would play it and we started recording our stuff. And the funny thing is, it was recorded on this really old tape. And the funny thing is, this was a 1986 because it says it on the shelves is Scream Rage. And we were gonna call our album Smash the Glass, which was pretty. I don't even know. I think I was thinking. Of like Ride the Lightning, because at the time Metallica was my absolutely favorite band and I still to this day, I love Ride the Lightning and yeah, we were we recorded, we started recording stuff. And what's amazing is I still have that tape effect, several years ago, my buddy Zach from Fucking Music Productions, the band's, brainiacs, and I apologize. I can remember the name of your other bands, but this is, It was when bands like gave born, overflowing septic tank like it was. I remember the name of your other bands. I mean, we did, like, a three way split years ago, and I can't remember the other dude's band. I don't know, it's like I don't have references right now. Anyhow, Zach rendered, which I think you to this day, buddy, render that cassette. It's a CD. And the only thing I'm kind of disappointed to ask forget about it. But at the at the very end of, the recording that we did, I clearly remember, it's on the tape. So, Chris's mom, who is a really, really cool lady, a really nice gal. At the end of it, she's knocking on the notes. Is Charles Christopher, would you like would you like, to have some lunch or something like that? And, we were laughing. Very cool. Lady said, like, broken English. So that's not. We were laughing. Is is funny because she's knocking on the door. We're in there, like, just making a it's really crap music. I mean, this was way before, you know, I heard the legendary sock. I, all these other great bands like she squeeze and all these ridiculous great bands. Eddie Howe, we already recorded. We we did, a bunch of songs. And the funny thing is, we were, you know, I mean, I was like, I was a young teenager. I think I was like 15, and Chris was like 14. I was like one year ahead of him and we were jamming and recorded all this crap. We did like one song called The Specter. And it was funny because I would sing and play bass, which I could barely play, and he's all tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, and he'd do backup vocals, and it was frickin hilarious. No, I had another song. I'm sure this is going to get bleeped, but the song was called motherfucker and is like done and and and and and and and, you think you're cool, but you're not. You think you're cool. You're not hot. You're, Dan and and and and and and and and and, and you're just a motherfucker. But we were so shy because we kept thinking as mom was going to, like, listen in on us. So, like, when we do the second part of the, you know, the song, we'd go mother room and we'd mumble it and, God, it was funny. But anyways, that was like the first, I don't know if you want to call it a real band. We ended up jamming with these two other guys that I became friends with. A little while later. These guys, it turned out to be the biggest pricks, backstabbing alliance, sexist trash and maybe if I had, like, a, hardcore band, I could, you know, I could do a song about, well, backstabbing bastards, you know, keep it real, bro. Anyhow, these guys, we I don't even remember. We recall in our band, but it wasn't scream rage. It was like. But we we were jammin. And we actually recorded a cover of we Will Rock you by Queen. And I was singing it. Chris was playing actual drums. He actually had, I think the drums were at somebody else's house. I think we stayed the night or something, but, I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure that was Chris. So the guy was playing acoustic guitar and it was pretty bad, but I wish I had a copy of it because it was pretty funny. But, you know, and I lived in Germany. I got I really got into music, especially I'd always liked music, you know, because, 1982 and I lived in Minot, North Dakota. I was really, really into MTV. I mean, it was just like it blew my mind, I loved it. I used to stay up on Fridays and Saturdays till like 2 or 3 in the morning, sometimes all night. I'd see how long I could stay up, and I just. I was obsessed, you know, because I was always waiting for my favorite videos to come on. And I still love a lot of 80s pop and all that. But, when I lived in Germany, I ended up, I had this, I get this older friend, I just, I said, hi to him one day, lived across the street with his wife, and this, had one son at the time. They end up having another kid. But this dude was, his name was, Charlie Holmes. And he was, he was still an airman in the Air Force, but he lent me, we got to become really good friends. We'd hang out, and he lent me a bunch of tapes. I don't know if I'm told. If I read told a story, maybe I am. Oh, well. Oh, well, you know. But anyways, so he lent me this big stack of tapes like rush, Judas Priest, Black Sabbath, head East. I think he lent me. I head east, they say Pink Floyd. No, I was already collecting Pink Floyd. But then he lent me, this really cool Pink Floyd book I had no pictures from, like, one of their old, old tours. Actually, it was from different, different concerts, like animals, the wall, all that. But it really, really kick ass book just full of awesome photography. It really inspired me. But I got in all that music, I think. Did I say Black Sabbath? I think I did da well, anyways, so I got really educated in that, and at the time I was also listening to like, you know, Cinderella, Motley Crue, poison, was a pretty maids doc and Alice Cooper, and I was really heavily into Pink Floyd. And I try to remember like, oh, yeah, except Scorpions, Motorhead, because I had rock and roll on cassette, and that's a great album. I need to get that one back in my life. I've. I haven't had that in years. But anyhow, you know, that's when I was like in, you know, more like hard rock, of course, Van Halen, we got really into Queens, Reich, Ozzy Osborne, all that stuff. And I still love all that music. A lot of, some of the bands only like, like the first album, like, you know, Cinderella and Poison, but, you know, I can still appreciate them. But anyhow, very special time of my life. But, yeah, my buddy, I really looked up to him, and, I remember one particular day we were hanging out and he goes, hey, man, you want to go for a ride? I was like, sure. And he had the Edgar Winter group, the song Frankenstein and I don't think I had heard it at the time. So he's like, hey, check this out. He says, from the time I played the songs till the time we come back, the song is going to start. It's going to end as we get to the driveway and lo and behold, yep. I mean, we were driving fast, man. We went all around the neighborhood. Well, the village that we lived in and was so many had the song cranked out really loud. It was really cool because I had my seatbelt on. He insisted on that. We pull into his driveway as soon as, the song ends, and I was just like, wow. This dude was, you know, I hope I hope he's, you know, still out there. Hope he's doing all right. His family's doing good because, Charlie was a really freaking cool dude. And, I miss you a lot, man. I think about it. Hope you're doing good. But, he was really, really into it. Oh, that was the other band. I was really in. Doo doo, of course, LED Zeppelin and, he had, like, four framed pictures of the Beatles in his kitchen. And I know his first son, Robert, was named after Robert Plant. And I'm trying to remember they ended up having another kid, and they named him after, I can't remember who it was. I don't think it was Jimmy Page or somebody. It was another, like, rocker. But anyhow. So yeah, Germany and I had another one of my best friends over there. He was probably he was my best friend over there was a guy named Milton, and I really missed that dude. I have not heard from him in a very long time, but his nickname called him Milt The Build. And he was in a football. Just but not a jock at all. Really super cool guy. I mean, he kind of looks like a jock, but he wasn't. He was one of the nicest people I've ever known in my life. He was really into, like, heart, Brian Adams and, like Stan Bush. I like all those bands. I still like them all too. But he and I also would air guitar a lot at his house. We go out, I go to his house a lot. I hung out with that dude a lot. We did air guitar to Brian Adams, and it was pretty funny because I was really into Bryan Adams back then. Just recently kind of go back into his music again. I, I really do like some of the songs, and I don't care what anybody thinks, because I also feel like, you know, Bryan Adams is pretty weak. I'm like, whatever. His big King Diamond fan, so you gotta give him credit for that. Apparently that's a story that I just read. Speaking of Bryan Adams, it's apparently not too long ago there was a story about that. He likes to play, Mercyful Fate on his tour bus really loud, and and none of his band members could stand them. And he's just like, dude, I love metal. And I'm like, what a cool dude. I mean, because Bryan Adams is definitely not metal at all. I mean, not even really hard rock. But yeah, I think that's frickin really, really cool. And, but, my friend Milton and I, yeah, we had all these nicknames I called a Milton built, and I was wild. See, styles. And before I forget, my friend Chris, I nicknamed him Chris. Is, you know, this these friends of these big names of the, like, very. Rural or, you know. We're like, heavy metal. And I would, draw these, you know, fake album covers and stuff and come up with all these ideas. And it was just really cheesy. But, Milton and I came up with a band and got, I think we recorded one song. I just, I don't remember, I remember we were jammin. I think we tried to do like a rap song or something. Oh yeah, we did a cover. I think we did a cover of the Beastie Boys. Oh. Come on. What was the song? Yeah, it was, fight for your rights to party, which that's what other band I really well, I've liked I've loved the Beastie Boys since, like, what was it that album came out, what, 86? License to ill got that old CD many, many years ago. Finally. Anyhow, we were doing we started this band. It wasn't even a real band. We called a BDO and it stood for Beer Drinkers on Acid and I totally believed. And I was like, man, you know, we got to make this real. And I remember I brought over one of my keyboards and it was funny. We just I'm pretty sure we did one song and it was really terrible. I don't even know what happened to the tape. It was like a long time ago. But anyhow, that was my first foray into trying to do bands. And my brother Jimmy and my little brother Jimmy and I. I remember one day he was playing like a bucket or something. We were jamming in a basement in my room because my room was down, way down in the basement, and it was it's own room right next to the laundry room. But he was he was banging on these buckets, and I was playing one of those old organs. You plug it in, he turned it on, and it's like powered by air jingles. It's like really cheesy. But, I was playing that and I was singing some stupid song like, I am a werewolf. I will kill you when the moon comes out. I am a. Werewolf, I will. You will die. And it's like, wow, I was pretty horrible. And that was like something. I swear. I have a tape somewhere with my little brother singing on. I want to find it because I know I have it somewhere. Some really old crappy like master sound. You know, one of those master sound cassettes. Those are just, like, crap. But you know, the funny thing about it is, you know, you all start somewhere and always makes me laugh. When I read interviews with these bands, they're all, like, serious, right? Yeah. When we started out, we were just total crap. And our music. Was garbage. Was all just noise because some of it, some bands did start out doing noise. I probably already mentioned this, but like the band, the German Desk, Rain band, blood, who I do like and I'm not slamming on them, but I guess their first like few demos were a total noise. It's just all shit and we hate it. The somebody put out, because I saw it on Andy's list, on his top 20 or something, which I misread, knows all of those. But, Andy from all caps at three, like, it was like blood, like our early demos collection. I want to I want to get my hands on a copy of that. But I've always wanted to hear that. I've never heard that stuff, but anyhow, they're like, all talking about it, and they're like, somebody mentioned about industrial noise, like, you know, we don't like that garbage either. And I'm like, Jesus, whatever. That's what they it always makes me laugh. Those are run into these like, it seems like it's like a lot of metal people that hate noise. Not all, but quite a few I run into, like I do. This guy out here who was a drummer and so if you want to, you know, trade a CD, it. Usually go not in the noise or only in the ambient stuff. And I was like, okay, that was the end of the conversation. I just think it's funny. But it it also, some people think that, oh, if you do noises because you're untalented, you're not a musician. The thing is, I'm not really a musician. I have been playing my guitar a lot in the last few years. Have gotten really, really into my guitar. I just personally find a boring. And this is all on the topic of of music and getting into stuff. I can admire people play music, but to me, like, even playing the same songs over and over and over, and then you go on to record, I mean, you hope they're going to be, you know, come on. Perfect. And then you go on this big ass tour and you going to play the same songs over, and I just find em boring. I mean, that would drive me nuts. And it's like, no wonder bands break up, you know? It's like Nirvana and Nirvana got really big. I know, that Kurt Cobain got really sick of playing, like, their big hits, and he got sick of it. And I don't blame it. It's like, God, you do it. You know? The same songs over and over and over at at least one noise. You can say what you want. People. Anybody out there hates noise. Say what you want. So you know this song or whatever. This, that's what I, what I do. Recording and playing live are like two completely different things. I cannot emulate the same thing I recorded, like I've done probably about 20 different versions of, and I'm an idiot because I fit that in my own. So I inner spatial love song. I believe that's the one. But every time I, I do this, song dedicated to my dream girl, it's never sounded the same. I mean, I could put out an album if I could find every live version of that. Not one sounds the same. It's not like white House for a white House could emulate their power electronic stuff live. And they did pretty good job doing that. I cannot do that. And I don't really care to because I don't want to do the same damn thing over and over and over and over and over. And when I play live, I try not to do the same thing. Unfortunately, last couple shows that I did play, came out really minimalist, kind of kind of boring, like just didn't have a mixer, so I couldn't have multiple instruments, you know, going all at once. But that's how it goes. But, the thing about, like, going back to, like, you know, getting into music and trying to start bands, you know, and I've had people argue with me like, oh, your band. It's not a real band. Oh, my. Oh, I'm not a real band because it's just me. Or you're not a real bear because you're not music. And I go, duh, obviously am not music. I think it's funny and I hate the word noise music. I don't play noise music. I make noise. There's a big difference. Yes, it's all sound. And I, I despise when people call bands like. Noise Core. And they're not. They're like technical metal, you know what I mean? It it's like, that's not noise. It's just like technical, like whatever a math rock. I don't know what the flip side is, but I always laugh. Was it like metal maniacs used to do that? They they liked the, some of the people would describe these, like, hardcore size metal bands. Oh, they had these, like, interesting signature. Time changes in their music. They call noise chords like the frickin noise core, you know, noise. Cause that's, like, makes it dumber. GOP mensch. The sexist, sort Dessau, you know, monkey mush, like ten second, five second two seconds song stench or corpse. Some of those of sore throat. The screech to the corpse acid album. I just this pisses me off. And the funny thing is, these people are probably aren't even in the noise. So it's like, you know what business? Now I'm starting to sound like J dog. It's like you're you're not you're not a tough model. You're not even you're a poser. And. All right, well, sometimes I think people are kind of posers to it. I mean, I'm, I'm one of the ultimate glam posers, obviously, because I still lost a lot of cock rock, especially lately, Bullet Boys and, firehouse for some great stuff. So try not to get off the subject here, but, yeah, I, you know, speaking of, bands now, I, I, I started somewhere, you know, and I've never, I've never made it go and go big with anything I've done. I mean, I get a lot of I get not a lot much, but you know what I mean? I get some really cool emails and messages online from people, really kind words about my band. And that means a lot to me. And it kind of helps keep me going. Oh. Excuse me. Sorry. It's really, really, really late. And, normally I would drink coffee, but I'm not going to because I don't want to get too wired. So, yeah, I just keep doing my band. I mean, I keep I've quit it so many times, but it's like a terrible disease with no cure. But, no music. I like music, and I've said that a lot, and, like, you know, I see, like, Bach music. I've written that on the back of a lot of my old cassettes, and that's just basically like screw music. I like music, though, and maybe it makes me a hypocrite. I do like music, but making noise is probably my favorite thing. I just really like to, I make I like to make layers of crazy sounds, the whole harsh world. What was it called? Harsh noise wall or whatever you call it. I've done some stuff like that. I love it, and it's weird because I did a song by conflagration, my, one of my other projects I did years ago, and I'm not sure why I title it, labeled it Under Conflagration because conflagrations, not a noise band. It's more like my grind metal punk project, which is coming back. But I did this for layers, a really loud noise. But for some reason, I just didn't feel like the earwigs. I'm like, I'll just have this as a can't worry conflagration song, because it does. It sounds like a conflagration. And if I say that word too many more times, I'm going to forget what it means. But, yeah. So, in other, so-called news, you know, I'm, I'm dealing with, some of this crap on my life. I made a bunch of calls, the other day, and I'm getting a lot of problems out of way, but I still get more stuff to deal with. By the time these episodes come out, I'll probably already have had my call and, Skippy done, which I need to. I just got a notice, and I'm like. Oh, we've been trying to get Ahold of you. You need to make an appointment. It's like, oh, I need to make an appointment. And who's going to pay for the big ass bill that I'm probably going to get? But a friend of mine, dear friend of mine, told me earlier that that's, considered what is it called? I can't even think of the word right now, but, preventive medicine. Thank you. Preventive? I believe so. I know I need to get it done. I got two days off for that. Oh, boy. Lay in there, you know, and, Boy. But anyways, it's probably for the best because, you know, with the last few months dealing with the health issues, I got a new doctor. I just still not really feeling that great. Today was the second night I take my new medication. Gotta take another pill tomorrow. I'll take a lot of medicine, man. Take vitamins. These pills supposed to help me with, lowering my blood sugar and also dealing with some other problems. I'll just say the problems downstairs. Quote unquote. Downstairs. Man. But, yeah, it's nice to be back doing, another episode here. And I was so tired, I'd probably try to make jokes, but I don't really feel like doing that right now. I'm just. I'm out of it. I'm zoned out. I love talking about, you know, the old the quote unquote old days. And I've had people saying, dude, I don't hear you. I think to hear more stories and, you folks, you're going to hear a lot more stuff. I'm gonna be talking a lot about the early 90s, like the old got some stuff, you know, more stories about Pile of eggs. Of course, earwigs shows. I've played people, I bet. Good. And the bad man. Excuse me. You know, like, and meeting legends like, you know, Ron Lazard from RR records and emo bolero. You know, folks like that, just a lot of funny stories and, not really anything too bad. Like, I, I laugh at the word my old friend, old buddy Patrick from Trash Records and stuff about noise beefs. I need to get back in a hold of you. Speaking of which, dude, I don't know if you're on my show yet. I'll be here, buddy, but, trash is a really cool label. But he was having these quote unquote noise beefs with people, and I just laugh. That word just cracks me up. Noise beef. And I have, I've had people online try to start smack with me over my Barnum's, like, whatever. I've, excuse me. Sorry about. That. A lot of people on YouTube is a lot, I would call them cyber bullies, a lot of pricks. And I've been fighting myself. Like, I'll put up, like, a comment about something, you know, and I just complimented the person's video or whatever, and and also, I got all these assholes trashing on me. So what I've been doing is I've been going back through and instead of arguing with them, I just delete my comment and then all their comments are deleted. I feel kind of weak doing that, but it also kind of really ticks me off that people don't be such aholes, you know? Yeah, it's almost like getting ganged up on. I've had people in the past, I'm like, where do you live if you want to go? You know, like, several years ago I got online and I was I wanted to listen to some discharge and I have some discharge, but I wanted to just, you know, play some videos or whatever. Anyways, I get on YouTube and I found, what are the seven? And so I was like, oh, cool. I'm gonna listen to it. I get on and I said, I, cool guys, this is really cool stuff. Well, so we gets on there to start to insult me. It's like a little mild insult, like. Well, you're you're probably pretentious too. This is just like garbage. And I was like, what is your problem? I said, all I do is I like discharge, one of my favorite bands. I said, I don't even know you. Well, anyways, it did, I think it was within like a two week radius. This guy started getting really violent. He's like, I want to slit your throat, Iraqi style. And I said, hey, you know what, buddy? I'm going on tour. Why don't you give me your address? Let's see how tough you are. Let's see you do that. Pull a knife out, see what happens, I dare you. And then he went to respond, and I did as I told them off. I'm like, you're an asshole. I said, I don't know you. I'm on here trying to comment on my friend's stuff, and you're just sitting here, you know, crapping on me. I said, why don't you go f yourself? And it just got really super violent. And I think I ended up, deleting all of it. I don't remember because I was trying to go back and I wanted to. I wanted to save the whole conversation and and, like, put it in my zine that I was doing at the time, and, I don't know, it just got really, really violent. I did I asked the guy, so where do you live? I said, let's go. I said, I want to see how badass you are, you asshole. And this guy, I mean, he would just not shut up, you know? And I was like, wow, man, what the frick is your problem? Like, what a douche. But there's a lot of that going on and that's why I have to laugh, man. And I know I'm jumping from talking about the first bands. I started to like the earwigs, and now I'm talking about bullying. But don't. Bullying is a real serious thing. It's still going on. I run into a lot of, like, aholes. I've had people yell at me when I'm riding my bike. I don't even know these people. I'm like, I'm riding my bike. I'm minding my own business. All sudden someone's like, get off the F and road, you idiot, or something. And I've told him, I said, why don't you say it louder? Get out of your car and say it to my face. Because it does. It really ticks me off because it's like, I don't know these people. And constantly the hostility of people is ridiculous. There's a lot of hostility in Spokane, Washington, and some people. Will be recruited. You know, I'm. Like, why don't you kiss my ass, dumbbell? Because I'm not the one starting this crap. You know, I'm minding my own business. I tried to make a joke with somebody. I'm not being rude. And then I get some stranger, like, standing there glaring at me, and I'm like, take a picture, you know? And I'm my type. It's like that intense sexual glare, which I would rather have. I mean, that's a beautiful woman's glare in a in a sexual way. That's kind of cool. But, not when it's like, you know, like. You're able to almost if you up. I've had that happen plenty of times. You screaming at me and just wow. Out of nowhere, man. Oh, oh. I gotta, my thoughts really dry through. Wow. So, yeah, pretty much the gist of this episode was the almost talking about, my old friend Chris Hayes, and then, you know, did I even say his real name, Milton Heaton Jr, aka melt the Belt? I miss you guys. I hope, you know, going back to that Charlie Holmes, some other really cool people that I knew in Germany. Still friends with my friend Michelle. She's awesome. She's a really cool gal. Always a joy to read your cool, funny, posted your cats and all your decorations, a Halloween stuff that you buy and you put up in your house. Cheers to you and your husband and your kitties and and your dog. I think that's totally cool. I'm pretty sure you have a dog. The. You know, you think I would remember that. But anyways, sorry. Excuse me and my friend John Beavers. Awesome. Cheers to you too, buddy to you and your lady. Hope you guys are all doing good out there. And upcoming. I definitely want to do an episode doing a shout out to my friends and family, but, yeah, it's like I said in the past. I'll probably say it again and again, but doing the show is, like, kind of therapeutic for me. I'm a big mouth. I like talking sometimes. I can be a little overwhelming and I will apologize for that because, I'll think about it later. I'm like, man, I could, crew for almost a little bit like a psychic vampire. And I don't mean to, just, get really excited, but I don't think there's anything wrong with that. You know what? I've asked some friends, like, you know, they're my bad because they're like, no, you just be excited. And I do. I get really excited, but other times get really down and depressed. I'm like, why do I even bother? You know, like, I was thinking about it earlier, so many podcasts out there, so many. It's ridiculous. It's like, Holy smoke, I don't even want to know how many there are. But I think the cool thing about them is there's there's podcasts for everybody out there, you know, there's a lot of good stuff, and I'm sure there's a lot of bad stuff. I, I need to listen to more. If I had more time, I would. Oh, I wish I could do. That. Wow. Hopefully I'm not making anybody fall asleep. I was trying to be, like, funnier and stuff like, Holy smoke, man, I am just. Yeah, I'm a little out of it right now, so it's gosh darn medicine. And plus, they didn't sleep very well today. Okay. Waking up got a little cat staring at me. Passed out, woke up, passed out. Cats keep going in and out of my room. Which I try to be nice. I close the door, I don't close it all the way in and they come just rushing in and and and then, you know, pain in the neck. But I love them. They're my life, you know? I love them with all my heart. And, speaking of that, are we getting. No, we're not getting, we're getting close. We're kind of getting near, near the end of of an episode again. But, this has been fun and, kind of more of a, I guess the theme of this episode talking about, you know, the bands that I did and, but anyways, I got that scream Rage on CD, but I'm hoping to maybe get that other part on there, maybe get it redone or whatever with, my friend's mom on there talk, and it's pretty bad stuff. It's just it's it's bad. There's one song on there, though. I'm a little bit confused. I don't really I don't remember recording it, but all it is, it's like, Yamaha keyboard is a bird, a bird, a bird, a bird, or with a computer to to to. And it almost sounds like I was trying to, like, do do metal is really cheesy. And, few other songs and there's a lot of parts of us just laughing and talk, and it's just like, just a ridiculous, like the sounds like a couple of kids, you know, trying to record music. And I mean, we tried and, another song on there, my buddies going off on the drums is playing drums, and I'm playing this acoustic guitar, and it's almost like I'm trying to sound like speed metal. It's really bad. I'm like, they're they're neener neener neener neener neener neener neener neener neener neener neener neener neener. And he's like, boom, boom, boom, tap tap tap, boom, boom boom, tap tap. And I just laughed listening to it. I was like, this is wow. But it oh, it's a good time. It's for the time of, I don't know if I want to say innocence. I just kind of a just a oh, the pond back then where I used to actually buy cigarets. I would like smoke, try to be cool with people. I was always late to class. Friend. Part reason. I hung out with them. I kind of had a crush on a sister, but, her best friend. I got a definitely had a crush on his daughter. Was beautiful girl named Theresa. She was beautiful. But, I hung out with those guys. And what's funny, this is so long ago, and, I, like, read a poster of Raven on his wall, which was cool with Rob the wacko Hunter, the drummer. I always thought it looked totally cool, but, then some metal pictures on. As long as I sit in a room and smoke, it's cigarets. It was funny because I did that for a short time, and then, I really got tired of being late for classes. We go, who were these people? And they just turned on me, a bunch of basses. And so I had, like, almost, almost a full bag of cigarets. I just threw them in the garbage and I was never late to class again. I was like, I'm done. So it wasn't even an addiction. It was just that I was smoking so. I could approach people and. Apparently I didn't embarrass anybody. But that was high school, man. That was a long, long time ago. 85 to 88. And then, things kind of went downhill. I ended up getting kicked out of there. Nothing super bad. Just, you know, I really get along with my family. And I was always the black sheep. I still kind of. I still am, but, I love them, but, you know, just always in my own world, man never fit in. So I ended up living on my grandparents, which was the best thing that could have happened. And from there, I got heavily really, really into music. Even more, that was what I spent my allowance. My grandma gave me an allowance because, you know, I try to help out around the ranch. We had horses and stuff and, it was way back, like 89. I was first pen pals with food for tonight. Aka Dave Shoal, I should say Two Rivers. Dave Scholl, a.k.a.. Anyways, and I would buy, like, he put out, like a new 45 like me sock, I record some, I don't have money and I still have all that stuff, man. I still have all of it. That I don't think I ever got rid of anything from from from from you, man. I still have all that sort of roach. Well, sock, I, I think I bought of Rose of Oaks. Well, tit wrench split seven inch. Was it a your prayer tool? I can't remember, but anyways, I bands pretty incredible. I got one of those seven inches of the handmade cover, which is really cool. Violet vibrato 17 I think was from Scandinavia. It's really stripped down. I don't know what the hell is this really oddball record? It's pretty cool, but it's also a what all, meat shits point a holic seven inch, which was like the first meats it's, vinyl ever made. It's, 90 songs live with the X rated cover. I still own that, man. I remember being excited about those, like, back when they were like, total noise core. So the earlier stuff I like the best. Anyhow, so yeah, I think that's about it for this episode. Don't know what the next episodes will be like. Definitely going to be, some interviews coming up with some friends is hopefully, another interview with my brother, Mr. Fecal off, I guess maybe my other brother do. Well, we'll see where, So I draw with other yawning. I have definitely more stuff to blab about. Thank you for listening to Beyond the Podcast of 1984. This is Ben, the bizarre alien from outer space, saying, stay sick, take scared. Don't forget to change your underpants. And as always, keep the filth. And, if you have any questions or comments or anything, you can go to the website. It's, BD p 1980 4.com. Super easy to find. Just opened me on the podcast 1984 podcast should bring it up. I think it's the first link. But yeah, all this internet stuff. Normally this is like 20 years ago. You can write a letter. I mean, you still could get my address, you could write a letter. I, I wouldn't mind, I'd read your letter on my show. That'd be cool. But like I said, last episode, we got, Tim made a bunch of really cool buttons. So if you donate any money towards. The show, you. Get buttons. I can send them to you, or Tim can. Tim has, like, probably thousands of them, and we got other stuff coming up. You know, maybe try to help fund this show. Anyhow, thank you for listening to my show. Hope you're all doing good. Take care of yourselves and your critters because they're as important as you. And, lots of love. Respect your way. Friends. And I'm going to keep watching this, guys. And, hopefully my dream woman hears this, and we'll come on down and visit me and hang out with me and, force me into, marriage. I don't mind that. I fantasize about that. So. Okay. I'm out of here. Adios. Nanu nanu. Oh, my God, no. Oh, no.